Comments on: Diary Of A Pick-Up Artist

By: Jordan

Jordan — Sat, 01 May 2010 01:49:54 +0000

@Stephen: It’s encouraging to know that you were once where a lot of us find ourselves now, or have found ourselves in the recent past. Sometimes I wonder whether all my efforts are actually taking me anywhere… it’s nice to see that real positive change is possible!

Would love to see more entries from the pickup days.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:42:37 +0000

I agree with what you are saying, Stephen!

What I was getting at is that the fantasy of ‘pickup being the answer’ is can be a hard one to shake. That said, if you do have the “90% game” down, approaching women does become easier, because we have stuff in our own lives to talk to her about,

By: Stephen Nash

Stephen Nash — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:17:33 +0000

Maybe/maybe not Michael – but why spend years finding out? My point all along has been to get good at the 90% “game” which is focusing on developing a thriving lifestyle which naturally brings people together. I think the idea is to meet the right women, not get expert at pick-up.

It’s the veritable forest and trees argument. One that holds up very well from my end.

Sn.

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:22:34 +0000

Thanks for the answer. My own experience is that the ‘take-rate’ is pretty low. Getting the # or email is actually the easy part. Getting her to respond and actually meet up again is the challenge.

Then again, I have no illusions of being another Mystery. And I live in a smaller town, where most women are already either taken or have in their social circle plenty of guys. So I admit I still find myself wondering if it is possible for a guy to be able to *consistently* go to Whole Foods (in a bigger city) or Union Square and ‘pick out’ his next girlfriend, if only he has “everything” together enough…

By: Stephen Nash

Stephen Nash — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:55:30 +0000

Quite normally she would never call/email us back. There was such an enormous breach of trust in doing what we did. We could stimulate them emotionally, perhaps, for long enough to get them back to the house. But, once they came to their senses away from that artificial environment, they would realize that something wasn’t ‘right’ about us. This led to a high rate of flaking.

We did try day-game – very little difference.

I understand the appeal of the cold approach, but it doesn’t factor in how WOMEN work. They are very keen on a man’s integrity, and have massive BS meters. If anything feels incongruent, they won’t take a chance – particularly those who have solid men in their lives already. It’s fools gold, in other words. The real stuff lies somewhere down the road in a real life.

Sn.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:58:22 +0000

What happened, by the way, when you were able to meet a girl you were attracted to and you were able to ‘pull’ her, so to speak?

What typically happened the day after? The week after?

Did you guys try ‘Day Game’ at the time?

I’m asking you this because I for one wanted to be great at cold-approaching, precisely because I felt at the time that it would get me a girlfriend. I would have been much more likely to ‘set up shop’ at Whole Foods or the beach instead of the club, but I went through a period where I felt that I were to master cold-approaching, I would have handed to me the keys to the kingdom, so to speak.