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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want no part of any so caled male &#039;communities&#039;. I don&#039;t need a guy who knows/understands/feels less about women than he does shopping to try and mentor me. Not on anything important in life that is. Mentor yourself and draw from your own strength. The confidence, self-awareness, and evertyhing else all comes from inside. Alpha-Males are losers. always will be. They are forever immortalized by the dissastisfied disllusioned and revenge seeking women who had the so called alpha&#039;s mark left on them for whatever amount of time their lives crossed. They may be adept at getting laid, but they&#039;re no better than even the biggest betas at truly understanding/connecting with/feeling close to women. Nor keeping them in a real committed monogamous relationship.

 For the temporary haul of physical gratification and providing a circus type mysterious/dangerous attrcation with certain women they are set. Once the so called honeymoon and intrigue/mystery/edginess factor of their personality wears off and wears thin, end of game. Mature women know what they want, and want more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want no part of any so caled male &#8216;communities&#8217;. I don&#8217;t need a guy who knows/understands/feels less about women than he does shopping to try and mentor me. Not on anything important in life that is. Mentor yourself and draw from your own strength. The confidence, self-awareness, and evertyhing else all comes from inside. Alpha-Males are losers. always will be. They are forever immortalized by the dissastisfied disllusioned and revenge seeking women who had the so called alpha&#8217;s mark left on them for whatever amount of time their lives crossed. They may be adept at getting laid, but they&#8217;re no better than even the biggest betas at truly understanding/connecting with/feeling close to women. Nor keeping them in a real committed monogamous relationship.</p>
<p> For the temporary haul of physical gratification and providing a circus type mysterious/dangerous attrcation with certain women they are set. Once the so called honeymoon and intrigue/mystery/edginess factor of their personality wears off and wears thin, end of game. Mature women know what they want, and want more.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/09/03/the-feminism-problem-part-ii/#comment-16675</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want no part of any so caled male &#039;communities&#039;. I don&#039;t need a guy who knows/understands/feels less about women than he does shopping to try and mentor me. Not on anything important in life that is. Mentor yourself and draw from your own strength. The confidence, self-awareness, and evertyhing else all comes from inside. Alpha-Males are losers. always will be. They are foreve rimmortalized by the dissastisfied disllusioned and revenge seeking women who had the so called alpha&#039;s mark left on them for whatever amount of time their lives crossed. They may be adept at getting laid, but they&#039;re no better than even the biggest betas at truly understanding/connecting with/feeling close to women. Nor keeping them in a real committed monogamous relationship.

 For the temporary haul of physical gratification and providing a circus type mysterious/dangerous attrcation with certain women they are set. Once the so called honeymoon and intrigue/mystery/edginess factor of their personality wears off and wears thin, end of game. Mature women know what they want, and want more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want no part of any so caled male &#8216;communities&#8217;. I don&#8217;t need a guy who knows/understands/feels less about women than he does shopping to try and mentor me. Not on anything important in life that is. Mentor yourself and draw from your own strength. The confidence, self-awareness, and evertyhing else all comes from inside. Alpha-Males are losers. always will be. They are foreve rimmortalized by the dissastisfied disllusioned and revenge seeking women who had the so called alpha&#8217;s mark left on them for whatever amount of time their lives crossed. They may be adept at getting laid, but they&#8217;re no better than even the biggest betas at truly understanding/connecting with/feeling close to women. Nor keeping them in a real committed monogamous relationship.</p>
<p> For the temporary haul of physical gratification and providing a circus type mysterious/dangerous attrcation with certain women they are set. Once the so called honeymoon and intrigue/mystery/edginess factor of their personality wears off and wears thin, end of game. Mature women know what they want, and want more.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/09/03/the-feminism-problem-part-ii/#comment-15605</link>
		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just adding something: the themes touched on here may be strongly related to the rising &#039;age of adulthood&#039; in our times.

That is, it takes longer today to attain traditional markers of adulthood. Not so for the baby-boomer generation (those born in the 20 odd years post-world war 2), which acts as our larger cultural template, or our terms-of-reference for how life &#039;should&#039; be like. 

This is all over the Western world, and is not restricted to one nation.

The baby-boomers lived in a time of abundance, which, in an anthropological sense, pushes down marriage ages (for the men). The baby-boomers got married in their early twenties. They were able to afford housing without too much of a stretch. 

Well paid jobs were more plentifully available for the middle and working class, and people did not have to spend as many years in on-going education to be able to get these jobs.

There is more to it than this, but the gist of it is that people were &#039;adults&#039; ready for marriage at age 20, and the baby-boomers lived in times that made this possible.

Today, it may take young people another 10 years before they are at the &#039;ready&#039; point, vis a vie housing, education, &#039;secure&#039; income, etc, that baby-boomers were at age 20. 

So, age 30 is closer to the &#039;true&#039; age of adulthood today. The median ages of first marriage reflect this generally in Western societies - both bride and groom are close to, sometimes over, 30 years of age.

These are our times, and our lot. That being said, it is somewhat unhealthy. 

Compared to the baby-boomer experience (our own cultural reference point), young men today (middle class, caucasian men) often experience another 10 years (a decade!) of jumping through hoops to be deemed &#039;eligible&#039; to pair-bond, and begin a family. Yes there can be sex and relationships in the interim, but it is often not secure.

The (now) 10 years extra is causing large cultural ripples. Just one of these is a rising tide of anger and misogyny (there are also other reasons for the misogyny growing). Men naturally want to have a normal secure relationship, and these feelings do not begin at age 30. 

When you consider that people are biologically &#039;adult&#039; at the onset of puberty at around age 12 or 13, waiting till roughly age 30 to pair-bond and breed is getting into an unnatural zone. For most of human existence (our own evolutionary environment where the basis of all our innate behaviour developed), most men and women did not even LIVE to see age 30...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just adding something: the themes touched on here may be strongly related to the rising &#8216;age of adulthood&#8217; in our times.</p>
<p>That is, it takes longer today to attain traditional markers of adulthood. Not so for the baby-boomer generation (those born in the 20 odd years post-world war 2), which acts as our larger cultural template, or our terms-of-reference for how life &#8216;should&#8217; be like. </p>
<p>This is all over the Western world, and is not restricted to one nation.</p>
<p>The baby-boomers lived in a time of abundance, which, in an anthropological sense, pushes down marriage ages (for the men). The baby-boomers got married in their early twenties. They were able to afford housing without too much of a stretch. </p>
<p>Well paid jobs were more plentifully available for the middle and working class, and people did not have to spend as many years in on-going education to be able to get these jobs.</p>
<p>There is more to it than this, but the gist of it is that people were &#8216;adults&#8217; ready for marriage at age 20, and the baby-boomers lived in times that made this possible.</p>
<p>Today, it may take young people another 10 years before they are at the &#8216;ready&#8217; point, vis a vie housing, education, &#8216;secure&#8217; income, etc, that baby-boomers were at age 20. </p>
<p>So, age 30 is closer to the &#8216;true&#8217; age of adulthood today. The median ages of first marriage reflect this generally in Western societies &#8211; both bride and groom are close to, sometimes over, 30 years of age.</p>
<p>These are our times, and our lot. That being said, it is somewhat unhealthy. </p>
<p>Compared to the baby-boomer experience (our own cultural reference point), young men today (middle class, caucasian men) often experience another 10 years (a decade!) of jumping through hoops to be deemed &#8216;eligible&#8217; to pair-bond, and begin a family. Yes there can be sex and relationships in the interim, but it is often not secure.</p>
<p>The (now) 10 years extra is causing large cultural ripples. Just one of these is a rising tide of anger and misogyny (there are also other reasons for the misogyny growing). Men naturally want to have a normal secure relationship, and these feelings do not begin at age 30. </p>
<p>When you consider that people are biologically &#8216;adult&#8217; at the onset of puberty at around age 12 or 13, waiting till roughly age 30 to pair-bond and breed is getting into an unnatural zone. For most of human existence (our own evolutionary environment where the basis of all our innate behaviour developed), most men and women did not even LIVE to see age 30&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Is Chivalry Dead? &#124; Cheap Date Ideas &#124; Date Ideas in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver Toronto Dating Toronto Singles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Chivalry Dead? &#124; Cheap Date Ideas &#124; Date Ideas in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver Toronto Dating Toronto Singles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Masculinity Problem Part 2 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Masculinity Part II - Redefining "Masculinity" &#124; How to Get a Girlfriend</title>
		<link>http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/09/03/the-feminism-problem-part-ii/#comment-14910</link>
		<dc:creator>Masculinity Part II - Redefining "Masculinity" &#124; How to Get a Girlfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &lt;&#8211;Read The Second Article in This Series: &#8220;The Feminism Problem (Part II)&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sherrie Rose (The Love Linguist)</title>
		<link>http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/09/03/the-feminism-problem-part-ii/#comment-14901</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherrie Rose (The Love Linguist)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

You are MY HERO!  

In fact, I might go as far as saying you may be helping our planet and generations to come.  We need sexual polarity for sexual dynamics (www.sexualdynamics.com) or we will become an androgynous, boring race of people. 

You wrote: &quot;What we need is a new image of the modern man. We also need new intelligence. Many of us are trapped in bogus, antiquated archetypes which have no meaning to most men. The “Alpha Male”, for example, is one such type.&quot; 

- and -

&quot;Lets quickly look at some key concepts. These words will help us, and are aspects that we can develop into our lives.&quot;

    * Assertiveness
    * Confidence
    * Security
    * Autonomy
    * Focus/Aim/Mission/Purpose
    * Challenge &amp; Austerity


Stephen, we&#039;ve met and spoken at length.  I use terms like &quot;Chairman of the Relationship&quot; and &quot;Masterman&quot; (check the urban dictionary).  

I applaud and support you on your mission. Anything to get the love bucket filled and expanding!

Best,
Sherrie Rose
&quot;The Love Linguist&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>You are MY HERO!  </p>
<p>In fact, I might go as far as saying you may be helping our planet and generations to come.  We need sexual polarity for sexual dynamics (www.sexualdynamics.com) or we will become an androgynous, boring race of people. </p>
<p>You wrote: &#8220;What we need is a new image of the modern man. We also need new intelligence. Many of us are trapped in bogus, antiquated archetypes which have no meaning to most men. The “Alpha Male”, for example, is one such type.&#8221; </p>
<p>- and -</p>
<p>&#8220;Lets quickly look at some key concepts. These words will help us, and are aspects that we can develop into our lives.&#8221;</p>
<p>    * Assertiveness<br />
    * Confidence<br />
    * Security<br />
    * Autonomy<br />
    * Focus/Aim/Mission/Purpose<br />
    * Challenge &amp; Austerity</p>
<p>Stephen, we&#8217;ve met and spoken at length.  I use terms like &#8220;Chairman of the Relationship&#8221; and &#8220;Masterman&#8221; (check the urban dictionary).  </p>
<p>I applaud and support you on your mission. Anything to get the love bucket filled and expanding!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Sherrie Rose<br />
&#8220;The Love Linguist&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Masculinity Part I - Stop Objectifying Women &#124; How to Get a Girlfriend</title>
		<link>http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/09/03/the-feminism-problem-part-ii/#comment-14855</link>
		<dc:creator>Masculinity Part I - Stop Objectifying Women &#124; How to Get a Girlfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve discussed this in detail in my previous two posts (The Feminism Problem - Part I &amp; The Feminism Problem - Part II). Women have evolved well past men, and we are now left flapping in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve discussed this in detail in my previous two posts (The Feminism Problem &#8211; Part I &amp; The Feminism Problem &#8211; Part II). Women have evolved well past men, and we are now left flapping in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Casandra Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/09/03/the-feminism-problem-part-ii/#comment-14849</link>
		<dc:creator>Casandra Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Stephen,
      I would read some of your article and then get up and dance around the living room. Then I would sit down again and read some more.
     Your writing style is a tad heady for my taste; however, it was generally holding my attention. 
     At one point I was reading along as usual when I realized that I was getting aroused. Curious, I went back to see what I had just read. It said- 
     
“grow something real and male…..”

LOL. Maybe there is something to subliminal messages. 

I may re-read your article and respond in the future from a more intellectual perspective. We’ll see. 
Sincerely, Casandra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stephen,<br />
      I would read some of your article and then get up and dance around the living room. Then I would sit down again and read some more.<br />
     Your writing style is a tad heady for my taste; however, it was generally holding my attention.<br />
     At one point I was reading along as usual when I realized that I was getting aroused. Curious, I went back to see what I had just read. It said- </p>
<p>“grow something real and male…..”</p>
<p>LOL. Maybe there is something to subliminal messages. </p>
<p>I may re-read your article and respond in the future from a more intellectual perspective. We’ll see.<br />
Sincerely, Casandra.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/09/03/the-feminism-problem-part-ii/#comment-14841</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with this. All my life I never concerned myself with getting a relationship. Throughout high school I was focused on getting into a good college, and this focus is something that has been with me my whole life. I want a career before I can even think about a healthy relationship, and consequently, I&#039;ve never had one. People tend to think there&#039;s something wrong with me, why has he never had a girlfriend? This type of thinking has started to affect me, I should just point them to your article. I come from an environment where the girls have kids at a young age, where neither the man (boy) or the woman (girl) have their life straight, and I think to myself, wow I dont want that. 

I have a question though. Your article has made me feel more guilty about my own sexual desires, I mean my body doesn&#039;t understand anything about life purpose and goals. Are you telling me to suppress that? Are you telling us that it&#039;s wrong to have some fun (sex) as you figure things out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with this. All my life I never concerned myself with getting a relationship. Throughout high school I was focused on getting into a good college, and this focus is something that has been with me my whole life. I want a career before I can even think about a healthy relationship, and consequently, I&#8217;ve never had one. People tend to think there&#8217;s something wrong with me, why has he never had a girlfriend? This type of thinking has started to affect me, I should just point them to your article. I come from an environment where the girls have kids at a young age, where neither the man (boy) or the woman (girl) have their life straight, and I think to myself, wow I dont want that. </p>
<p>I have a question though. Your article has made me feel more guilty about my own sexual desires, I mean my body doesn&#8217;t understand anything about life purpose and goals. Are you telling me to suppress that? Are you telling us that it&#8217;s wrong to have some fun (sex) as you figure things out?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here&#039;s 2 more cents from me...about men and our relationship to women....

As guys, on the one hand, we have the capability for something that women in general do not have (at least nearly as much)--autonomy. We can walk alone. We&#039;re &#039;allowed to&#039; walk alone without being judged by society for that. We have lost touch with that to some extent. However, we still aren&#039;t good at asking for help, even when we need it, and we&#039;re not good at giving each other help. We tend to view each other as &#039;competition&#039; sometimes.

On the other hand, women are much better than we are about building around them a community. Their friends are never far away when they are needed.

This really plays itself out throughout the course of many a relationship between a man and a woman. The man often relies on the woman not only for sex, but also to get his neglected emotional needs met--the needs he can&#039;t get met through his male friends. He also relies on her to provide direction in his life--hey, he doesn&#039;t like his job and his hobbies don&#039;t mean much to him either. However, the woman still has her friends to get her emotional needs met. And even her family and her friend&#039;s projects to give her purpose. 

Who do you think will take the breakup harder?

My point is that we guys do have to build in a sense of community with each other. And we do need to get back in touch with our missions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here&#8217;s 2 more cents from me&#8230;about men and our relationship to women&#8230;.</p>
<p>As guys, on the one hand, we have the capability for something that women in general do not have (at least nearly as much)&#8211;autonomy. We can walk alone. We&#8217;re &#8216;allowed to&#8217; walk alone without being judged by society for that. We have lost touch with that to some extent. However, we still aren&#8217;t good at asking for help, even when we need it, and we&#8217;re not good at giving each other help. We tend to view each other as &#8216;competition&#8217; sometimes.</p>
<p>On the other hand, women are much better than we are about building around them a community. Their friends are never far away when they are needed.</p>
<p>This really plays itself out throughout the course of many a relationship between a man and a woman. The man often relies on the woman not only for sex, but also to get his neglected emotional needs met&#8211;the needs he can&#8217;t get met through his male friends. He also relies on her to provide direction in his life&#8211;hey, he doesn&#8217;t like his job and his hobbies don&#8217;t mean much to him either. However, the woman still has her friends to get her emotional needs met. And even her family and her friend&#8217;s projects to give her purpose. </p>
<p>Who do you think will take the breakup harder?</p>
<p>My point is that we guys do have to build in a sense of community with each other. And we do need to get back in touch with our missions.</p>
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