Comments on: Cameron Teone: Pros & Cons of The Seduction Community Part II, “The Dark Side!” http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/ NYC Dating Coach Stephen Nash's Blog Sun, 13 May 2012 18:43:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jon http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-15184 Jon Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:23:09 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-15184 Another useless bunch of tripe intended to dissway men from taking an active role in getting good with the opposite sex. Sure there is some useless info out there but the same could could be said for about half the SHIT I see on cable TV passed off as news. People have to be able, or learn to eventually at some point, tell good advice from bad. Sure everyone goes through a period when they may start to overthink things ( I have ) but then again I did the same thing when I was first learning to ride a bike... Then once it all became absorbed and intergrated I no longer need to concertrate on my ballance or anything else... There are people who over analize ANYTHING including seduction, that's a problem on the indiviudals side. I'm sorry but this person's article comes off sounding like another border-line feminist article telling me not to try and make their lives better!!! Another useless bunch of tripe intended to dissway men from taking an active role in getting good with the opposite sex.

Sure there is some useless info out there but the same could could be said for about half the SHIT I see on cable TV passed off as news. People have to be able, or learn to eventually at some point, tell good advice from bad.

Sure everyone goes through a period when they may start to overthink things ( I have ) but then again I did the same thing when I was first learning to ride a bike… Then once it all became absorbed and intergrated I no longer need to concertrate on my ballance or anything else…

There are people who over analize ANYTHING including seduction, that’s a problem on the indiviudals side.

I’m sorry but this person’s article comes off sounding like another border-line feminist article telling me not to try and make their lives better!!!

]]> By: icfny.com http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-15040 icfny.com Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:16:07 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-15040 <strong>Rules of Dating Personals and modern on the big stage...</strong> When you create your online profile, or scanning over other people, online dating is a risky business at best. I can understand why some groups would be hostile, but the fact is that if we develop a set of predefined rules of dating. Rules of Dating fo... Rules of Dating Personals and modern on the big stage…

When you create your online profile, or scanning over other people, online dating is a risky business at best. I can understand why some groups would be hostile, but the fact is that if we develop a set of predefined rules of dating. Rules of Dating fo…

]]> By: Mark http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14746 Mark Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:59:54 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14746 Has not the same essential point been made in what is ostensibly the focal point of origin of the community, in the novel The Game? In case anyone failed to notice the plotline, Strauss in the novel actually points out the resemblance to the Lord of the Flies, and the downward spiral of suspicion, plotting, paranoia, etc. in Project Hollywood. The entire language of the community gets folded back on itself, as though it were a psycholgoical and sociological model that exhausts all human interaction, between men and men and men and women: Tyler Durden and others start to apply the concepts they are using not only to approaching women but to their interactions with other men. As Bart Simpsons says when asked if he has never heard of the story of the boy who cried wolf: 'Nah, I only read halfway, it was boring." Anyone would do well to take the more sinister aspects The Game demonstrates to heart as much as hte obvious take of hope for the average guy it is. It appears to me that the work of people like Stephen is counter-balancing the dangerous, sinister and self-destructive tendencies in the community. The community is growing up, but that won't be much consolation to those who found it at an immature state... Has not the same essential point been made in what is ostensibly the focal point of origin of the community, in the novel The Game? In case anyone failed to notice the plotline, Strauss in the novel actually points out the resemblance to the Lord of the Flies, and the downward spiral of suspicion, plotting, paranoia, etc. in Project Hollywood.

The entire language of the community gets folded back on itself, as though it were a psycholgoical and sociological model that exhausts all human interaction, between men and men and men and women: Tyler Durden and others start to apply the concepts they are using not only to approaching women but to their interactions with other men.

As Bart Simpsons says when asked if he has never heard of the story of the boy who cried wolf: ‘Nah, I only read halfway, it was boring.” Anyone would do well to take the more sinister aspects The Game demonstrates to heart as much as hte obvious take of hope for the average guy it is.

It appears to me that the work of people like Stephen is counter-balancing the dangerous, sinister and self-destructive tendencies in the community. The community is growing up, but that won’t be much consolation to those who found it at an immature state…

]]> By: Nick http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14647 Nick Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:42:32 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14647 Hi all I identify totally with what was said about wanting something to happen. It's reassuring to know other are in the same boat.I went to a pua seminar in London ( I'm a real London born Londoner by the way :) ) lat week and it was interesting if a big weird. I am on the verge of signing up to a 'day game' bootcamp. It all seems though ok for guys up to 30, but for older guys it can seem wrong and forced. I've been doing online but that is very very hard work . Hi all

I identify totally with what was said about wanting something
to happen. It’s reassuring to know other are in the same boat.I went to a pua seminar in London ( I’m a real London born Londoner by the way :) ) lat week and it was interesting if a big weird. I am on the verge of signing up to a ‘day game’ bootcamp. It all seems though ok for guys up to 30, but for older guys it can seem wrong and forced.

I’ve been doing online but that is very very hard work .

]]> By: Michael http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14636 Michael Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:31:35 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14636 I learned an awful lot from Stephen. I can tell you my 3 stages for me personally: Stage 1: Not really doing anything. My life with women, actually my life period, wasn't what I want it to be, but my attitude was typical, 'you know, what can I do?'. Stage 2: Putting myself out there, but getting my coolness from others. I was approaching and approaching like crazy. I spent a lot of time Sarging--hanging out in grocery stores, coffee shops, malls, and so on. I call this the "That Guy" phase of my life. I got my validation from how cool women responded to me and how my more timid friends admired how ballsy I was. I didn't have any real passions outside of getting good with women though. Stage 3: I just started this phase, but this is where I want to be. Realizing that coolness comes from how I live my life. I'm developing passions and interests that have nothing to do with women. I've stopped reading Community literature, realizing that it is NOT about more information, it IS INSTEAD about doing the basics well. When I see a woman I truly want to me, I meet her. I have also seen that I do not have to approach every woman I see whom I think is cute though. Cold approaches are great, but they get their power from how I live my life AWAY FROM pickup, and also HOW SELECTIVE I am. (A great way to get that funny feeling is to do 'too many' cold approaches. It makes me feel 'sketchy'.) I learned an awful lot from Stephen. I can tell you my 3 stages for me personally:

Stage 1: Not really doing anything. My life with women, actually my life period, wasn’t what I want it to be, but my attitude was typical, ‘you know, what can I do?’.

Stage 2: Putting myself out there, but getting my coolness from others. I was approaching and approaching like crazy. I spent a lot of time Sarging–hanging out in grocery stores, coffee shops, malls, and so on. I call this the “That Guy” phase of my life. I got my validation from how cool women responded to me and how my more timid friends admired how ballsy I was. I didn’t have any real passions outside of getting good with women though.

Stage 3: I just started this phase, but this is where I want to be. Realizing that coolness comes from how I live my life. I’m developing passions and interests that have nothing to do with women. I’ve stopped reading Community literature, realizing that it is NOT about more information, it IS INSTEAD about doing the basics well. When I see a woman I truly want to me, I meet her. I have also seen that I do not have to approach every woman I see whom I think is cute though. Cold approaches are great, but they get their power from how I live my life AWAY FROM pickup, and also HOW SELECTIVE I am. (A great way to get that funny feeling is to do ‘too many’ cold approaches. It makes me feel ‘sketchy’.)

]]> By: Amir http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14634 Amir Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:29:30 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14634 Eye opener on eye contact- every pick up guide talks about eye contact. They say hold strong eye contact with woman. Basically its a very common topic and every guru is presenting this concept in a wrong manner. Making eye contact basically comer from the concept of conveying confidence to others. Now they are giving this advice to the shy people who always look down during a interaction with any one. So basic idea was to look towards the face of other nd not the earth. So they came up with a idea of having direct eye contact but they again forget to tell when to have a direct eye contact and when not. Moreover the alpha concept tells yov the moment when you need to have a direct eye contact and when not. They say that look directly when telling them something while look away when listening them to show that you are high status. Tch tcg tch... What a shit advice they are giving you. I think that if you hold eye contact while deliuering your conversation then you cannot go inside your own memories and emotions if your eyes are locked. So u will appear fake in your talks. Also its not like that you always look away when saying something. Just be natural and dont learn anything about eye contact from pick up books. Eye opener on eye contact- every pick up guide talks about eye contact. They say hold strong eye contact with woman. Basically its a very common topic and every guru is presenting this concept in a wrong manner. Making eye contact basically comer from the concept of conveying confidence to others. Now they are giving this advice to the shy people who always look down during a interaction with any one. So basic idea was to look towards the face of other nd not the earth. So they came up with a idea of having direct eye contact but they again forget to tell when to have a direct eye contact and when not. Moreover the alpha concept tells yov the moment when you need to have a direct eye contact and when not. They say that look directly when telling them something while look away when listening them to show that you are high status. Tch tcg tch… What a shit advice they are giving you. I think that if you hold eye contact while deliuering your conversation then you cannot go inside your own memories and emotions if your eyes are locked.
So u will appear fake in your talks. Also its not like that you always look away when saying something. Just be natural and dont learn anything about eye contact from pick up books.

]]> By: Amir http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14633 Amir Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:01:11 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14633 I dont care if you took what i am writing and present to others as your own material and i believe u wont do it because you seems to be a nice guru. Why you dont try cocky and funny? 1. If you are good looking it will backfire you. 2. If you do it on a girl other than hb 9 or 10, again it will backfire you. 3. If you are a newbie stay away from this arsenal box because only pickup artist can pull a girl using c/f 4. Read it thousand of times but still you wont understand whats this C/F is all about. 5. If you get the concept 1001 th time then i can say with surity that you still havent get it. 6. Suppose you get the concept 1001 th time then i am again sure that you cannot make your own cf lines. So u have to get it canned and wh ile delivering it you will definately appear fake. 7. If your cf line gets a shit response from a girl then you dont have any back up plans as you are not a pickup artist or a natural cf guy 8. You dont know from where you have to start using it, upto what extent and upto which stage you have to stop so why spend so much of brain power in this. Fuck this concept. I dont care if you took what i am writing and present to others as your own material and i believe u wont do it because you seems to be a nice guru.
Why you dont try cocky and funny?
1. If you are good looking it will backfire you.
2. If you do it on a girl other than hb 9 or 10, again it will backfire you.
3. If you are a newbie stay away from this arsenal box because only pickup artist can pull a girl using c/f
4. Read it thousand of times but still you wont understand whats this C/F is all about.
5. If you get the concept 1001 th time then i can say with surity that you still havent get it.
6. Suppose you get the concept 1001 th time then i am again sure that you cannot make your own cf lines. So u have to get it canned and wh ile delivering it you will definately appear fake.
7. If your cf line gets a shit response from a girl then you dont have any back up plans as you are not a pickup artist or a natural cf guy
8. You dont know from where you have to start using it, upto what extent and upto which stage you have to stop

so why spend so much of brain power in this. Fuck this concept.

]]> By: Amir http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14632 Amir Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:17:49 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14632 Yeah english is not my 1st language but i have studied it since childhood. Further the mistakes i made in my last posts were due to the fact that i was using my cellphone to type them and post them too. Yeah english is not my 1st language but i have studied it since childhood. Further the mistakes i made in my last posts were due to the fact that i was using my cellphone to type them and post them too.

]]> By: Cameron Teone http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14631 Cameron Teone Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:28:07 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14631 Amir, Your posts are amazing. You definitely should have your blog and you should write dating tips every day. The confused people out there need to hear "Every person is perfect in his own way." By the way, I realize English is not your first language, but what I don't get is how you can spell bigger words such as "Importance" and "Socialize" but slip on "Any" and "There." Regardless, I am sure that we all agree your blog will be amazing. Take care CT Amir,

Your posts are amazing. You definitely should have your blog and you should write dating tips every day. The confused people out there need to hear “Every person is perfect in his own way.”

By the way, I realize English is not your first language, but what I don’t get is how you can spell bigger words such as “Importance” and “Socialize” but slip on “Any” and “There.” Regardless, I am sure that we all agree your blog will be amazing.

Take care
CT

]]> By: Amir http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/06/19/cameron-teone-pros-cons-of-the-seduction-community-part-ii-the-dark-side/#comment-14629 Amir Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:06:07 +0000 http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/?p=1752#comment-14629 No i didnt buy ny product. I was on bitseduce. No i didnt buy ny product. I was on bitseduce.

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